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Discharged from Nuke Program
Unfortunately My son sent us a text that he is out of the nuke program--His scheduled graduation date was 1/30 and because of a facility issue at Goose Creek where the ship wasn't working properly they delayed it until 3/30. He told us he was SO FAR behind, was given work to catch up plus the work that needs to be done every day. He struggled through A-School..barely passing. He struggled through Power School--barely passing...and Prototype did him in. His supervisors are saying he is a worthless piece of shit, that he isn't trying hard enough. Honestly, I think he has the brains to pass the tests to qualify to get into the nuke program..but isn't up to snuff cognitively to make it through the program. They aren't even talking about transferring him. Right now he is working in the administration office because they have nothing else for him and he is very likely to be discharged soon. This breaks his mom and my heart because he REALLY wanted to go in doing something with computer science and the recruiter was insistent the nuke program was so much better--everyone passes...etc...and a less than honorable discharge for not being cognitively able to make it through the program is just crap in my opinion. He was told that they would put his name out there to a couple bases that he could possibly qualify for but, "if they don't want you...which they probably won't...who would?' then your shit out of luck. They told him he wasn't going to amount to crap as a civilian. He has busted his ass with hours..puts in the extra-required hours and then some. I understand being tough and realistic to motivate...but they are doing it to demean and get rid of him. I don't see how not being able to pass the nuke program equals being a miserable failure in life or not being able to even be a cook or a conventional sailor....makes no sense and as pro-military as I have always been...right now I'm questioning everything.
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Permalink Reply by CatMomma on
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ChuckG - I am so sorry for the struggles you are going through.
My son was one of the tops in his high school class, always scored perfect in math on state standardized tests, destined to go to college and become an engineer. At college, he wasn't motivated to study and didn't pass his classes. It wasn't because he wasn't intelligent. Maybe he was burned out. Failing out of college severely dropped his self-esteem and he felt ashamed around his friends. I worried as a parent that he would end up living in the basement playing video games the rest of his life, but instead he said he wanted to join the Navy. He got 99 on the ASVAB and was on his way to being a Nuke. He passed A-School and is in Power School now and he says it is really hard. He loved it when they did math, but all they are doing now is memorization.
I feel bad for him. Classmates around him are failing and leaving the program. He figures he only has a 50-50 chance of passing. It would be heart-breaking for him to fail again at something. Like a lot of the young people in the Nuke program, he had always been the tops in his class in high school. Now he is mediocre among all the very intelligent Nukes. He said that he would dread having to call his mom and dad to say he failed again. I reassured him that we think he is "great" no matter if he failed. I would hope that he would be reassigned to another interesting rating. If he were sent home, I would be very concerned about depression.
Before being too hard on your son, watch out for signs of depression. When I was young, my brother couldn't make it through college, then couldn't keep his job. He became sullen, lived with family members who couldn't understand him, thought he was lazy because he didn't do anything. It turns out he had depression ... he simply couldn't function. But we didn't find that out until after he had been living on the streets homeless for 5 years.
Your son has had a huge blow ... even if it was made worse by him speaking his mind against the absurd expectations to memorize and study endless hours (at least he was honest and stood up against the fact that he believed he was being abused). Your son has achieved a great accomplishment of passing A-School and Power School. I know, because my son may not even pass Power School. Your son will need time to recover ... he will need more than 2 weeks or 2 months.
He will need reassurance of your faith in him. He may need career counseling soon. Watch for signs of depression and get him medication if necessary. If he has depression, talking about it in counseling isn't going to help, it's a brain chemical dysfunction that needs medication. The concern about untreated depression is that it can become life-threatening. You can google the signs to watch for and just try to be aware.
Unfortunately, we can't live our children's lives for them. We have to watch them live their own lives and hope they prosper.
I don't have answers or advice. I may be in your same situation soon. My heart goes out to you, your son and your family. I wish you all the very best.
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Permalink Reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on
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CatMomma - thank you for writing that. I believe your words may speak to a lot of people here. One thing I told my son over and over all through the pipeline was "No matter what happens, it's not the end of the world". This is a very intense program and it's not for everyone, but that doesn't mean you are a failure by any means if you don't make it through.
Thanks for sharing and I wish all the best to your son.
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Permalink Reply by BunkerQB on
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I posted a discussion a while back "Surviving Nuke School" - it may be useful for those currently in the program
http://navyformoms.com/group/nukemoms/forum/topics/surviving-nuke-s...
#13 is something we should remind these young men and women.
"13. Not making it in the Nuke program may be a blessing in disguise - there are plenty of jobs that someone with a "nuke" brain can do. It's not failure in life - just not as able as others to cramp a huge amount of material into the little old brain. NOT A BIG DEAL - just go on to something else."
Keep reminding him/her you his/her back. No matter what. People who drop out (or "failed" out) survive and live a happy life doing other things - some in the Navy - others outside of the Navy. It's a big world out there. Many many roads not taken.
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Permalink Reply by van1612 on
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This is probably the same thing my sailor is going through right now. His instructors and classmates mock him for being stupid and lazy just because he gets the lowest scores for tests every time. The classmates is one thing but even the instructors? This is supposed to be a school, one that trains sailors who serve the country eventually. Then their instructors jolly well start acting like teachers and not demean their students based on scores. Imagine if high school teachers were like that. They would have been fired long ago. I hope your son is taking it okay by now. I'm quite worried about my sailor too...
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Permalink Reply by pinky on
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My son qualified but coulnt take the job because he was color blind.. He later researched to see what he was missing out on. Well a couple weeks down the road they wanted him to take the job despite being color blind.. He turned it down for these reasons that he read about..read that you basically lose the chance for any good job.. He read that this happens to many of them.. I'm so sorry your son is going thru this.
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