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Comment by bethr311 on May 21, 2013 at 6:54pm
My son mentioned the suicide in his call last night. My heart aches for that family.
Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MM on May 21, 2013 at 6:28pm

It's really, really sad to hear about the suicides....we must continue to provide encouragement and support to our kids no matter what and let them know that even if for some reason they don't make it in the nuke program IT WILL BE OK.

I can't even begin to imagine the pain this sailor must have been experiencing to feel that his only out was to take his own life.....prayers going out to his family and friends.


Comment by Dan's mom on May 21, 2013 at 5:28pm

My son's first 3 months at Goose Creek, I think there were  3 suicides.  My son knew 3 guys who whizzed through the A school and Power school with very high grades.  But 2 had to leave during Prototype, they just couldn't apply what they learned by book to the actual doing of their job.  The other struggled, like he never in his life struggled before.  But he rose to it.  It's tough, but when they come through it, they have soooo much to be proud of.

Comment by maureenwithfive on May 21, 2013 at 2:36pm

From what I can tell, most military training programs are designed to separate the wheat from the chaff.

It was that way for my husband when he went through 12 weeks of Army Basic Training, when he went to the Army Intelligence Center and School, and when he went to NCO school.

The military is all about competition - but I don't think it's any worse than if our kids went out of state to college at a high-ranking school like MIT.  At least in the military they become a part of the Navy's family, where as at someplace like MIT, they're just another face in the crowd.

Comment by William in Nashua on May 21, 2013 at 1:15pm

  The nuclear training program seems intended to make people crack while in the pipeline, those who are liable to crack that is.     There were a number of suicides and deadly accidents while my son was in training both in Goose Creek and Ballston Spa.  I am not saying the accidents were stress related but they lost good people either way.   Maybe it has been this way always  it is definitely possible for a person to have good grades in Power School and still not be able to hack it  when he gets to prototype.

Comment by kayinaz on May 21, 2013 at 10:43am

Prayers going out for the family of this young man and his friends.  A very sad time for them all.

Sad Statistics-

US military suicide rate 2012

US Army – 182 suicides

US Marines Corps – 48 suicides

US Navy – 60 suicides

US Air Force – 59 suicides

The average suicide rate in the US military – 24 suicides per 100,000 soldiers – is lower than the civilian suicide rate for men aged 17 to 60 – 25 suicides per 100,000 in 2010.

The latest US military suicide statistics for 2011 suggest that a suicidal soldier is usually an unmarried white man under the age of 25.

Comment by NancyJo (CVN70) on May 21, 2013 at 10:10am

When my son was in GC there were 2 or 3 suicides in a relatively short length of time. When I was speaking to him about it he said we don't hear about the attempts that were not successful. They do create a stressful environment for our sailors b/c they don't want people in a critical situation they can't handle once they are in the fleet. Still, a tragic waste of a young life. God bless our sailors!

Comment by NancyJo (CVN70) on May 21, 2013 at 10:06am

My niece is a nurse practitioner just north of where the tornadoes hit so bad yesterday in OK. That whole area is devastated by what happened. Here in NE we get quite a few tornadoes but this kind of tragic loss of life, esp. of children, is thankfully very rare. Prayers and loving thoughts to all the people who are suffering there. Let's make sure we all remember how capricious chance is. That could be any one of us.

Comment by J's/S'smom on May 21, 2013 at 10:02am

SandraMM, counseling will be available to those who had direct contact. Some of their preparation before A-school deals with suicide and suicide prevention; they have a tragically high rate of suicide, especially in prototype. I don't know what the overall policy is, but I do recall that one or two sailors were given leave to attend the funeral of one of the Ballston Spa victims. Everyone deals with the shock and grief differently, and sometimes the best approach is to just keep moving and work harder.

Another set of tornadoes will be plowing through today. Here in Texas the devastation was terrible enough; what has happened in OK is beyond words.

Comment by cathy on May 21, 2013 at 9:55am

Dear Sandra - As painful as it is, this is not the first suicide.  Our sailors are actually briefed  in warning signs to look for potential suicides.  As far as I know, there were 2 suicides while my son was in Power School.  He also wound up bringing in a friend that had totally lost it and was in crisis.  This really rattled my son.  I asked him if they received counseling for all this.  He told me "Not really".  This concerned me as I knew how upset my son was along with others. 

Power School is hard enough as it is.  The stress is tremendous and I suppose it is just too much for some.  More should be done in these situations.  I suppose by the time training is complete they will all have toughened up quite a bit.

The Chaplain is always available and willing to listen.  Although my son is not religious he has gone and spoken to him a couple of times.  My son tells me he  is a great listener and gives great advice.  He is worth going to see.


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