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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

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Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Undesignated...What's Up With That?

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Undesignated...What's Up With That?

A place for Moms of Undesignated Sailors to share concerns and support each other.

Members: 458
Latest Activity: Jul 17, 2022

Discussion Forum

Nothing Wrong with Undesignated Sailor!

Started by David B. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 55 Replies

So I am freaking out a bit!

Started by tracemc. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 4 Replies

Undes 2017

Started by Melissagonavy. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 8 Replies

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Comment by NavyBrat on August 31, 2014 at 1:55pm

Any sailor who has completed the requirements for entry into as rating may request a hearing before the Navy Rating Review Board.

While the Navy Rating Review Board may require a sailor to be transferred to the department of the rating the sailor has successfully petitioned to work in, in most cases the Navy Rating Review Board does not have the authority to declare a non-rate a designated striker in the rating the sailor chose so the sailor will have to petition the navy to allow him/her to take the petty officer exam of that rating. Even if a non-rate passes the Petty Officer exam for that rating, the non-rate still does not become a designated striker for that rating and will have to wait for the crow to be "tacked" on before the non-rate may wear the rating insignia. Non-rates who PNA the exam, are SOL. PNA stands for passed but not advanced.

Comment by NavyBrat on August 31, 2014 at 1:43pm

A rating exam is the test that non-rates (undesignated;non-rate is the term used out in the fleet) take to become Petty Officers. Designated strikers, in most cases sailors who graduated "A" school in a rating but didn't become Petty Officers as a result of completing the "A" school, also take the rating exam to become Petty Officers in their chosen rating. In most case, you only become a designated striker by graduating an "A" school.

To become Second Class Petty Officers and further on up, an eligible sailor must pass another exam to get promoted. Open ratings are ratings any sailor can enter by requesting to take the exam. Controlled ratings require permission of the Navy ratings review board on your ship (many ships do not have a rating review board on board) and permission of the Navy to take the exam. Closed ratings are not available to non-rates and for most non-rates, controlled-ratings are not available.

Most non-rates will become Petty Officers in the rating of the department/division/shop the Navy chose to put them in when they were first assigned to the ship. Most non-rates take the path of least resistance and get their first crow in the field they were assigned to by the Navy. Just so they can get a rating and their crow.

Comment by NavyBrat on August 24, 2014 at 3:23pm

 djk's Mom;MM is machinist mate and is not a glorified custodian. Typically, it is an open rating and it is essential on every ship in the United States Navy. If your son is E2 still, then he has to make E3 before he is allowed to take the rating exam. He'll need to take the Navy PO 3 & 2 Correspondence and the Navy leadership correspondence course to become eligible to take the exam. Of course, it may all be online now. After he passes both courses, then he needs to pass the Petty Offic er leadership exam, and then he needs to pass the rating exam.

Comment by NavyBrat on August 24, 2014 at 3:16pm

 emmiec; we call them Seaquals, for Sea Qualifications. The ship and the crew itself have SeaQuals they have to certify before being allowed to go out on long deployments away from their home port.

Seaworthiness of the ship, and readiness of the crew are very important.

Comment by NavyBrat on August 24, 2014 at 3:13pm

 TropikalParadize it is not so much the command's staff not doing their job nearly as much as the command itself and the command's staff not having as much clout as other commands.

Generally, the smaller the ship, the less clout the CO will have.

Comment by Carol65 on August 22, 2014 at 4:56pm

My son went through bootcamp in Jan this year and has been at his duty station since April. He is undesignated but does not seem to be depressed or in any way unhappy. He has said that if would have learned how to study and focus the way the Navy has taught him he would have done better in college. I ran accross this article when doing to research and thought I would share it. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=78703

Comment by emmiec on August 22, 2014 at 12:01pm

djk my husband was explaining to me the other day that there are certain quals that they can only do when they are out to sea. Sounds like he has finished his quals that he can do while not at sea and will have to finish the rest while they are out at sea =]

Comment by djk's Mom on August 22, 2014 at 7:52am

ok I found out last night my son is E-pact I have not seen that mentioned here he is also undes.. I have not asked if he has picked a rate he said he just finished with some quals has more to complete by the 27th BUT since they are not underway he will not be able to get the signatures???? I have NO Clue what the heck . He seems to get very frustrated with me for asking questions.

Comment by djk's Mom on August 21, 2014 at 6:02am

Oh and he is in Japan!! Grrrrr!

Comment by djk's Mom on August 21, 2014 at 6:01am

My son just accepts everything at face value he PIR'd in January and has been on his ship sine April. getting ready for 2nd deployment. In my opinion he got bambozzled and is a glorified custodian. he is an E-2 gets paid crap(in my opinion) He is trying to be MM (I'm told I ask to many questions) BUT he says he signed up for it is doing his part to serve his country and if asked today he would NOT reinlist. To me that is sad. BUT they say my 19 year old BOY is now a Man and he knew what he was getting into. 

 

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