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Comment by T'sNukeMomMM(class1449A) on October 23, 2014 at 4:40pm

Mark, thanks for the information. I am learning so much today. Earlier this morning I did not even know what BESS stood for or what it was. So, very thankful for this site.

Comment by scubagirl on October 23, 2014 at 4:37pm

Thanks for the useful information, Mark. I stand corrected. We learn something new everyday on this ride called The Navy.

Comment by Mark on October 23, 2014 at 4:30pm

As a former submarine nuc MM/ELT, I can assure all that enlisted submarine nucs do not attend BESS.  It is true that BESS covers some crucial topics, namely fire-fighting and combating flooding.  Enlisted nucs receive that specific training shortly after reporting to their first boat, but don't go to Groton for it, unless their boat is homeported there - each submarine base has a training department for that sort of training.  Most of BESS is a very basic overview of submarine systems, something that any nuc who has successfully completed prototype training will breeze through, and readily pick up in the submarine qualification process.  Attaining dolphins (qualifying on submarines), contrary to popularly held belief does not qualify a submariner to do everything on a boat. Modern day submarines are too complex for that - the enlisted submarine qual simply means they have the "broad strokes".  Officers do all go to officer's submarine school; there is both a basic and an advanced course, abbreviated as SOBC, and SOAC respectively.  After completing the officer side of the nuclear pipeline, they apparently find the basic course to be a nice vacation prior to reporting to their first boat.  The main reason all officers, but no enlisted nucs attend a sub school is so that the officers can receive an introduction to the unique ship-handling issues of a submarine, since only officers ever "have the conn", or give orders related to "driving" the boat.

Comment by scubagirl on October 23, 2014 at 3:41pm

From what I have read and what my son said, anyone that will be on a sub has to attend BESS.  It teaches them how to put out a  fire on the sub, how to get out of the sub if necessary. where the different sections are on the sub, stopping a leak, etc.  Subs have some different procedures than the sailors on a ship.  Not a hard class and my son enjoyed the trainers and hands on classes. 

Comment by Cath Bubblehead mom on October 23, 2014 at 3:37pm

CO-Twins - I believe all who serve on a submarine go through BESS, But where they do A school and the order vary. Officers have to go through BOSS (Basic Officer Sub School).

Comment by T'sNukeMomMM(class1449A) on October 23, 2014 at 2:16pm

Co-TwinsalorsMom, it is very funny how things do switch with every generation. I also lived/grew up in a small country town and moved to the city. Both of my boys have grown up in the city and both of them want to experience the other side with traveling the world etc. Our youngest will be graduating from college in a year and a half. He is working on contacts in Italy to obtain a job there after he graduates. He has a double engineering major with an awesome gpa. I told each of them that their being across the world makes it hard for Mom and Dad to visit. We do not even have a passport yet. Oh, to be young once again and have such awesome great dreams. So proud of both of our boys.

Comment by CO-TwinSalorsMom on October 23, 2014 at 1:57pm

LOL Isn't that funny how things switch every generation on some things. My parents moved from small town country to city where I was born and raised, then I moved to small town country, Now my twins, One loves city one country.

Comment by T'sNukeMomMM(class1449A) on October 23, 2014 at 12:54pm

Co-TwinSalorsMom- my son soo wants to go to Ballston Spa. He grew up in a sunny desert environment. He so wants to experience the snow and cold. I grew up in Idaho and hated the cold, snow, etc. Thus, that is why I have lived in a sunny desert environment for the last 33 years. Always fun to visit the cold and snow and go skiing and snow mobiling but return to the sun and warmth.

Comment by T'sNukeMomMM(class1449A) on October 23, 2014 at 12:50pm

Elilam46 thanks so much for the information regarding BESS. My son is nuke MM.

Comment by CO-TwinSalorsMom on October 23, 2014 at 11:53am

No now I can say from the info elilan46 provided, No jukes do not do BESS. 

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