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Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

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**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

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**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

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Undesignated...What's Up With That?

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Undesignated...What's Up With That?

A place for Moms of Undesignated Sailors to share concerns and support each other.

Members: 458
Latest Activity: Jul 17, 2022

Discussion Forum

Nothing Wrong with Undesignated Sailor!

Started by David B. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 55 Replies

So I am freaking out a bit!

Started by tracemc. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 4 Replies

Undes 2017

Started by Melissagonavy. Last reply by NavyBrat Oct 29, 2017. 8 Replies

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Comment by HuffyMom23 on October 26, 2014 at 4:48pm

I would like to share something positive about my son.  Although as I have said before he did not have any intention of joining as undesignated, that is what ended up happening. 

He has been in for a little over a year, and was asked to participate in a retirement ceremony last summer.  He is so low key about everything that happens with him.  We were so proud of him that he was chosen for this especially as he was the new kid on the block and undesignated.  Then around August he was again honored with some type of coin for being a hard worker and eager to learn.  He said 2 sailors received this coin on the ship.  What I am not sure is whether it was just in his division or the whole ship. 

About a month or so ago, he was asked to participate in a burial at sea while they are out right now.  Since I have 2 uncles that were buried at sea, that really made me proud for  him.  This has shown me that even though he is undesignated, he has still been noticed for his hard work and dedication.  He keeps striking each month for a job, but so far nothing has happened.  I know and he knows it will eventually.  I will say I am thankful he is with the engineering group because he really likes the people he works with and does not feel like he is treated unfairly.  

I don't really pay much attention to the negativity on here  because I feel like each situation is different with each sailor.   I know my son is a hard worker and cares about things. He has always been a great young man, and never caused us a bit of problem (except as a defiant child). ha  He is pretty quiet and goes with the flow.  But if pushed too far, he will stand up for himself.  I believe this journey hasn't been what he thought it would be so when his time is up, he plans to get out and go to college.  But as we parents know, things could change between now and then. 

As a mother, I think the most important thing is to be positive for our sons and daughters and make them realize they are an important part of the NAVY no matter what they do.  We all know that even in the non-military work world, there are always people who believe they are better then others.  It is just how you choose to deal with it.  I am so proud of all the young men and women who have made the sacrifice of joining any branch of the military. 

Sorry to make this so long.  I have just been reading all the comments lately and thought I would pipe in. 

Comment by NavyBrat on October 26, 2014 at 4:41pm

The biggest beneficiary of the non-designated program is the Navy itself. The Navy gets to fill all the billets no one really wants to get stuck in. 

Comment by NavyBrat on October 26, 2014 at 4:36pm

Actually, I would take the word of an 18 year old high school student over the word of a recruiter anytime at all. The 18 year old high school student hasn't acquired the guile to win that fight yet, but the navy petty officer has.

In case you aren't smart enough to catch it, there is an underlying point to the above joke that is not cynical, but rather points to a legal problem the Navy would face in a civilian court.

It is the Navy that is making some serious mistakes and the two black eyes you think I've given the Navy, were self inflicted by the Navy before either of us were born.

The joke about all recruiters was meant as an opening for Angie, she just didn't know how to use it correctly nor see where I was pointing her.

The truth is,  it does no harm to the Navy to acknowledge that sometimes some Navy recruiters aren't entirely truthful, it is already well known.

Comment by CrackerjackMom on October 26, 2014 at 2:19pm

NavyBrat, your sense of humor and jokes are pretty twisted and this is not the place to practice your stand up routine.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 26, 2014 at 2:07pm

it is a difficult subject for me. I'm trying to be as honest as possible while avoiding frightening you with my knowledge of the fleet. I'm Navy, Army, and Marine Corps all the way back to the beginning.

Comment by NavyBrat on October 26, 2014 at 2:01pm

I would say that non-rate to CEO should be an. Encouraging story for your sons and daughters. Now, you may be encouraged to know that I'm not the first nor am I the last to make that journey.

When I said that recruiters of all corporations and all branches of the armed forces are liars, that was a sarcastic joke.

To be honest, I don't envy that job. 

You may not realize it now, but sending those letters may help you later.

To behonett

Comment by NavyBrat on October 26, 2014 at 1:50pm

Michael's mom. I am not negative although my sisters would tell you it is sometimes difficult to pick up on my sense of humor. 

Comment by CrackerjackMom on October 26, 2014 at 4:25am
Micheal's Mom.....my thoughts exactly!
Comment by CrackerjackMom on October 25, 2014 at 3:30pm

It took my daughter over two years to become rated. She went in in 2007. I know Undesignated has changed since then.

In 2007 it was just Undesignated, no other choice of departments. She did request to try work in different rates that she thought she was interested in at the time, and true to the way my daughter is it turned out she didn't like it after all. So for her the program worked to her advange.  

We just need to keep in mind that every Sailors as a different scenario, so many factors make up the course that they are taking to become rated. There is not just one answer for how undesignated will work out for an individual. 

Comment by NavyBrat on October 25, 2014 at 3:00pm
Today thousands of government agencies and corporations are using my software products. As I've said before, even the Admirals are required to address me as sir, today. Same with the Generals, and the Doctors. Something about the government's fear I'll utilize an option in the contract as I recall.
 

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