This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Navy.com Para Familias

Visite esta página para explorar en su idioma las oportunidades de educación y carreras para sus hijos en el Navy. Navy.com

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Sub Moms

Welcome to the deep, silent world of submarines!  If you're new to this world, start by reading the "Pages" of info found in the right-hand column, below the strip of member avatars.

We welcome your questions.  But, while you're here, maintain silence... don't slam doors or the lid on the toilet!

 Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Group Administrator: Kaye S. Kaye S.

Members: 1304
Latest Activity: Feb 11

READ THE "PAGES" FIRST!

NEW MEMBERS !!

PLEASE READ ARTICLES IN THE "PAGES" AREA

in the right-hand column, under the avatars ----->

BEFORE YOU ASK QUESTIONS !!

These articles are the "reference library" for moms, ready to answer FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) 24x7 (twenty-four hours, seven days a week).  You may not have to post a question after all!  Thanks, Kaye S.

 NOTE:  THERE ARE MORE PAGES THAN DISPLAYED -

FOR A COMPLETE LIST, CLICK ON "VIEW ALL" AT

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New to this life?  SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR NEW NAVY MOMS

Need an Ombudsman?  OMBUDSMAN REGISTRY

Discussion Forum

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Personal Storage on Fast Attack Subs

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Personal Storage on Fast Attack Subs

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submarine visits to foreign ports

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Comment by William in Nashua on October 31, 2014 at 7:35pm

We got 20 kids here for trick or treat with 25 minutes left in our town.  Seems fewer every year.  

Comment by Shea on October 31, 2014 at 5:03pm
My son has gone to someone's house for the last two thanksgivings and has loved it every time, of course he's a Cajun boy and they do love their food. I'm just so thankful to the families out there that make room for our sailors far from home!
Comment by Linda on October 31, 2014 at 4:57pm
God bless the families who allow our sons to Join them for Thanksgiving dinner. I am a mother who truly appreciates all those who generously take our sailors into there homes for dinner. Having a home cooked meal is one of the things my sailor misses from home. Thank you!
Comment by mrsb on October 31, 2014 at 3:55pm

My son was there last year for Thanksgiving and could have to a nice families' home but he had duty that day.  She was kind enough to send an entire meal back to the base for him.  He didn't eat it until the next day but he was very grateful.

Comment by tina41 on October 31, 2014 at 3:17pm

hello all!!

Happy Halloween!!  may you all get more treats then tricks!!

good luck hoosiermom!!!  maybe tell him it will make your thanksgiving a little better knowing he was with a family for dinner.  

Comment by hoosiermamma on October 31, 2014 at 2:47pm

Why is trying to convince my son to be "adopted" for Thanksgiving so gosh darn hard?  This is his first Thanksgiving away from home and as a NM I want to make sure he's not alone.  I understand the submarine retirees serve a Thanksgiving meal at Groton so hopefully he will at least go to that. 

Comment by ProudMomHappy on October 31, 2014 at 1:41pm

Looking for the parents of a "Paul" on Ship 04 Div 038.  I am not sure if you are on this site but I would like to talk to you.  It looks like I will be adopting him for Thanksgiving and thought you could send a care package I could surprise him with.  If you are out here. Please private message me with last name to confirm for privacy reasons.

Comment by Kaye S. on October 30, 2014 at 5:24pm

Navy History Lesson:
“Lieutenant Commander”

The Lieutenant Commander (LCDR) rank is one instance where our Navy did not adopt something from the British navy.

The British navy’s term for a Lieutenant commanding a smaller warship was “Senior Lieutenant.”  In the U.S. navy, this term changed in 1775 to “Lt. Commanding,” or sometimes “Lt. Commandant.”  In 1862, that rank became “Lieutenant Commander.”  These officers wore embroidered gold oak leaves on their shoulder straps in 1862, and the two and one-half stripes of gold lace on their sleeve cuffs in 1874.

Interestingly, the British also adopted the “Lieutenant Commander” rank beginning in 1914. 

In other branches (Army, USMC, USAF), officers at pay grade of O-4 (“Majors”) are considered ‘Field Grade’ and wear "scrambled eggs," the gold oak leaf embellishments on the bills of service caps.  However, Lt. Commanders in the Navy and Coast Guard are considered "Junior Officers," rather than “Senior Officers” (the equivalent of Field Grade).  Thus, they do not wear gold leaves on their service caps.

Comment by Mark on October 28, 2014 at 4:15pm

Pay and bonuses are always taxed except when received while in a Combat Zone, as Bainite said.  Here's the IRS link detailing the areas that are currently considered Combat Zones.

IRS Combat Zones

For Navy personnel on a ship/submarine, this boils down to the waters surrounding the Arabian peninsula (i.e Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman), and the Horn of Africa. 

Comment by Bainite on October 28, 2014 at 4:01pm

As I understand it (per Navadmin 081/14, http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/messages/Documents/...) the bonuses are eligible for "Combat Zone Tax Exclusion" (CZTE) if they "receive" the bonus while in an official combat zone.  I have heard of re-enlistments being scheduled for exactly that reason.  The signing of the papers and such has to be in the combat zone, being in that location as part of official duties.

 
 
 

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