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Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

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Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

For loved ones and graduates of Ship 5(17) no critics!This is a haven for the above, not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! PLEASE READ THRU MASTHEAD. MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE!

Members: 595
Latest Activity: on Monday

IMPORTANT NUMBERS AND INFO FOR SHIP 17


LEGAL 847-688-4949 hit 1 at first prompt, 7 at 2nd.
***Have recruit sign WAIVER so they can speak to you about their case. The hours in Legal are 9 am to 5 pm Central Time. This is only if they are being separated and have been transfered to Ship 5.
If they are being separated on medical issue, have them sign HIPPA release so you can talk about the medical issues too.
Medical 847-688-6755
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ADDRESSES FOR ALL SHIPS add division number.
http://www1.netc.navy.mil/nstc/rtcgl/contact_recruit.asp
SR NAME
SHIP XXX DIV XXX
XXXX STREET OR AVENUE
GREAT LAKES IL 60088-XXXX
Ship 5
3610 Illinois Street
Great Lakes, IL 60088-3118
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NAVY INFO ON SHIP 5http://www1.netc.navy.mil/nstc/rtcgl/ship5/index.asp
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SEPARATIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE ; 847-688-7444 ext 456
PUBLIC AFFAIRS 847-688-2405 if no word from recruit they will have them call back!!
TRANSPORTATION ;Once your recruit has a date going home a civilian handles the actual arrangements His number is 847-688-2767 ext 112, Most recent update is this person only hands over the paper work to the travel office which handles the travel arrangements.Have recruit call when he gets to that point to firm up the arrangements.
Contact your CONGRESSMAN if your recruit is getting a raw deal, it does wonders.
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---OMBUDSMAN--------
Recruit Training Command Ombudsman
(ombudsman assists with problems recruit s family is experiencing)
Ombudsman info
Great Lakes, Illinois 60088-2845
DSN: 792-3603 ext. 100
PHONE: 847-688-3603 ext 100
http://www.nsgreatlakes.navy.mil/fsc/
This one has specific numbers too
http://www.cnrsw.navy.mil/fsc/ombudsman.asp
NORTH CHICAGO VA HOSPITAL NAVY LIASON; for hospitalized recruits
1-847-688-1900 ext.85438 or 85441
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REPORTING RECRUITER FRAUD & DISINFORMATION;
write to
COMNAVCRUTCOM Code 001
5722 Integrity Drive
Bldg 768
Millington, Tenn 38054
Phone; 800-522-3451 Mon thru Fri 8am to 4 pm
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GreatLakes Web page
https://www.cnic.navy.mil/greatlakes/index.htm
go to Great Lakes Directory on that page for phone numbers not listed here
RED CROSS ASSISTANCE FOR CONTACTING MILITARY IN FAMILY EMERGENCY
http://www.redcross.org/services/afes/0,1082,0_476_,00.html Refer to this page re Red Cross Assistance Phone number; 877-2727337
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MEDICAL COVERAGE AFTER THEY LEAVE
TAMP (Transitional Assistance Management Program) is a program that offers TriCare standard benefits to separated service members (and their dependents) for 180 days after separation. The coverage begins the day following separation, and you can then go to CHCBP (Continued Health Care Benefit Program- similar to COBRA at $933/quarter for service member, $1900 for family), The separated service member has to call and activate the TAMP benefits. That's it- just a phone call. The service member had to have served for than 30 days and the cause for separation has to be no fault of their own (like a medical condition). DEFINITELY worth looking into! Here's the info:
http://www.humana-military.com/library/pdf/tamp.pdf
Here's the link for info about the CHCBP, as well:
http://www.humana-military.com/site-map.asp
DISCHARGE CODE CONTACT LINKS
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/l/blcode5.htm

UPGRADING DISCHARGE RE CODES
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/dischargeupg.htm

BUPERS INSTRUCTION 1900.8C

This contains all the codes and authorities complete with detailed explanations. It explains every block and every code on a DD-214.

 

Medical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Military Services

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.03

 

Criteria and Procedure Requirements for Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Armed Forces

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.4


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Comment by yellowdog on August 10, 2014 at 7:56pm

My blab was too long for one posting, so this is

PART 1

My son will be home tomorrow, and we are so excited.  I would like to share his story with you in hopes that someone in the Navy would learn to treat their sailors with a little more respect.  My son has wanted to be nothing except a SEAL since high school.  He made all his choices based on what would best help him become a SEAL.  He earned his Eagle Scout at the age of 13. He was on the high school swim team, Army JROTC, National Honor Society, and worked year round as a life guard on Ft. Knox.  He attended the local community college at night after his high school day was over so that he could take college algebra and trigonometry.  He applied and was awarded a NROTC scholarship to the University of Utah to learn Arabic.  Before moving to Utah, he studied Arabic at a school in Morocco.  About half way through his first semester at the U of U, the Navy asked what he wanted to do in the Navy.  When he told them a SEAL, they told him he was in the wrong program because SEALS get their officers from the Naval Academy and from current SEALs in the ROTC program.  They said he should go in the Navy as enlisted. 

He completed the semester and relinquished his scholarship so that he could enlist and try for a SEAL contract.  The CO of the ROTC program at Utah was angry because he gave up scholarship and told him he would be flipping burgers the rest of his life.

When he came home from Utah, I talked him in to finishing his degree, because the odds of making it through the SEAL program is not that good.  I told him that maybe with a bachelors degree if he didn’t make it through the program, hopefully the Navy would offer him a better career choice.  He told me he would make it through, but I reminded him that even though he had the willpower and strength, he could still get hurt and be medically disqualified.  So he went ahead and finished his degree in 2013. After graduation, he headed to Ocean City, MD for the summer as a member of their beach rescue team because he wanted to get more experience swimming in the ocean.

After his summer job was over he came home and started the process of enlisting in the Navy.  To get a SEAL contract, you first have to enlist in delayed entry and then you apply for a SEAL contract.  His ASVAB scores were high, so he enlisted in the nuclear program then he applied for and was awarded a SEAL contract.

Numerous times a week he would travel an hour away to train with a Navy spec war group.  This was all on his time and dime.  He left for boot camp May 15.

Comment by yellowdog on August 10, 2014 at 7:37pm

PART 2

In June at one of the special medical physicals they give to spec war guys, his hands were shaking during some kind of pointing test.  He was sent to a neurologist and a brain MRI and blood work was done.  The neuro said he would not lose his SEAL contract because it was a mild physiological tremor and would not be a detriment to his job.  Then the week of boot camp graduation, he was told he needed to followup with the neuro, so he went to see him again.  He met with the neurologist and the dive doctor and both said it was not a problem and that they would write a wavier.  He graduated bootcamp on July 11 after which he was transferred to the Temporary Hold Unit (THU) waiting for a medical wavier to get processed. 

He was expecting to be there a couple of days but in his third week he was told that he had been disqualified from any Special Ops ratings.  They sent him to reclassify where they offered him four ratings that were at the bottom of the barrel sort to speak.  He asked if he could get into intelligence or language or OCS.  He was told to pick from those he was offered or get out.  I understand medical decisions, because we would not want to jeopardize his well being or his team’s well being, but you would think the Navy would try to hold on to someone who has so much to offer.

He chose to leave, because there will be better things for him somewhere else.  One more kicker, while in THU he was assigned duty as the duty driver.  It’s a 24 hour duty and your job is to transport people to various places.  At night he slept in his duty pants so that if he got a call to give someone a ride he could get there faster.  He was written up (counseling chit) for sleeping in his pants.  I thank him for using his brain and wanting to do the best job possible!

I am a Navy veteran and my Navy treated sailors with more respect.

Wishing the best to all in SEPARATIONS!  You can do IT!

Comment by SailorMoon9506 on August 1, 2014 at 12:42am

Received another call from our daughter this morning with some more info. I told her to make sure to sign medical and legal papers in case I had to call. She already did. She was joking and being a little more like her old sarcastic self today. When I asked her if she was going back she said not without finishing her degree, and not unless she could skip P-Days, and then laughed. She will be home in 2-3 weeks, flying in. She also said she was told that she would be getting paid until the 24 hours before she left. And then very quietly, in her please don't tell me no to my next question mommy, voice, asked if I would keep her on my medical and dental. Hoping her spirit stays up. 

Comment by Camsproudmom on July 31, 2014 at 9:30am
Yellowdog & sailormoon9506 you can find a lot of support & very helpful info on Facebook we have a group called ship 5 seps. I joined over 2 months ago when my son was in seps. It is a closed private group. I am sure like all of use you have many questions this group can shed light on them.
Comment by SailorMoon9506 on July 31, 2014 at 1:22am

Hi all. Got the call today that our daughter was being medically separated. She left her June 24th to go to the RTC. By July first she was SIQ and then LLD for pneumonia. She spent the entire month of July being either LLD or SIQ. She is finally free of the pneumonia and to make sure they do a CT scan because her chest is constantly in pain. Something shows up on the scan, no clue what it is. She saw a cardiologist Monday, who said it wasn't her heart. Hoping it is some left over inflammation from the pneumonia. She said that they told her that if she came home, saw her doctor, and was medically cleared, she could re-enlist in 3-6 months. She feels like she has completely failed. She has never quit anything before, and being forced to quit has crushed her spirit. I could hear it in her voice. 

Comment by yellowdog on July 30, 2014 at 6:30pm

Horror story; Hi all.  I wanted to share my son's story.  He graduated boot camp 7/11/2014 with div 816 (Seal contract). In June at a special medical physical, the doc saw a mild tremor in his hands.  The doc sent him to a neurologist on June 16 where a brain MRI and blood work was done. The neuro told him it was just a mild physiological tremor which many people have and it would not get in the way of the SEAL contract and he was good to go. The week of graduation, it was noticed in his records that he was supposed to have a followup with the neuro.  So he saw the neuro and the dive doctor.  Both docs said they would write a wavier because the tremor would not be a problem.  After PIR on 7/11/14, he was sent to THU because the wavier paperwork wasn't in the file yet.  He was given the impression that he would only be there a couple of days while the wavier was filed and orders issued.  At THU he could not have his electronic stuff so we left his stuff with a sailor from his division who was now across the street.  My son would get it from him when he was moved across the street.  After a few days, my son checked at medical to see what was going on and they told him the wavier had to be reviewed.  Two weeks later, when he asked again they told him his case was in SpecWar in CA.  The next day he asked another corpsman and they said his case was at legal.  Today I mailed him his civilian clothes because he can have them now.  Today he was told that he has been disqualified from his SEAL contract.  They gave him 4 careers to choose from, CTN, Hospital Corpsman, Seabee, MAA.  He had a bachelor's degree and asked about OCS.  They said no.  He asked about getting into Navy intelligence and they said no.  Pick from these 4 or get out.  He is devastated.  He has worked many years getting and staying in shape for his contract.  He would also like to work in intelligence or language, but they will not let him.  He has decided to separate.  Tomorrow he will move to separations and now cannot have his electronics or the clothes I just mailed to him.  We don't know how we can get this items.  I cannot believe how the Navy treats young men like him.

Comment by mrsM on July 29, 2014 at 3:33pm

Hey, my husband is supposed to be coming home tomorrow and I have not heard from him today as far as where he is coming into, how he is getting there, and what time. When do they usually call to tell you this stuff? I am starting to get concerned. I have to call my job and let them know.

Comment by Angie on July 8, 2014 at 3:02pm

Sweetpea, if he has more than 180 days in from the day he left for bootcamp, there is a process for separation which takes months.  If he has less than 180 days in they can separate him for anything.  If they put him LLD for 30 days they are trying to help him, the PO is NOT the one to say he gets separated.  You just have to wait

Comment by sweetpea on July 2, 2014 at 11:08am

Hi all, 

I am a newbie here. My sailor just texted me and told me that a PO at TPU told him to get ready to get kicked out. He is upset, frustrated and heartbroken after talking to the PO, and so am I. 

Here is the story. He just finished A school and suppose to be flew out to his ship this week. However, he has been having a groin problem since he was in bootcamp. He went to the doctor while he was in bootcamp (doctor told him that he might have or about to have one). Went through bootcamp with pain. Finally finished A school a few weeks ago and went to the doctor at a local base while he was on leave.  Confirmed its not hernia. Checked in at his 1st duty station a week ago, went to another doctor at his duty station. Doctor refer him to a sports doctor (tomorrow) and wrote him a note for MRI (next week) and he is on LLD for 30 days right now. 

What is next? Is he definitely going to be discharged like the PO told him, or he still have hope staying in? How long is it going to take to know whether his is going to be discharged or not? 

Thanks

Comment by Camsproudmom on May 6, 2014 at 3:49pm
My son is home so time to say good bye thanks to those who were a support during this very trying time. I wish you all the best.
 

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